eth_simulate Implementers' Meeting [Jan 27, 2025]

[poojaranjan]

Meeting Info

• Date & Time: Jan 20th, 27th 2025 , 12:00 UTC
• Duration: 60 minutes
• Recording: eth_multicall Playlist
• Zoom

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Resources

Ideas for eth_simulateV2
PEEPanEIP#135: Eth Simulate with Oleg and Killari
https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-4399
https://docs.login.xyz/general-information/siwe-overview
https://ethresear.ch/t/fork-choice-enforced-inclusion-lists-focil-a-simple-committee-based-inclusion-list-proposal/19870

Agenda

• Client Implementation update
• Test
  • Add eth_SimulateV1 tests  lightclient/rpctestgen#33
• Discuss spec for eth_simulateV2

Add more discussion items or async updates.

The next meeting is scheduled for January 27, 2025 at 12:00 UTC

[poojaranjan]

No meeting was conducted on 20th Jan 2025. The agenda reflects the date for the next planned meeting.

[bomanaps]

Prototype and Development Progress

Estimate Gas Prototype

• Plan to start working on the Estimate Gas prototype soon.
• Progress on the tracing simulation prototype, discussed in a previous meeting, has stalled due to unforeseen circumstances.
• NetherMind had committed to developing this prototype but has not yet completed it.

Hive Test

• The team is still working on getting the Hive test operational.
• No significant progress has been made on simulation strategies, and no decisions have been finalized yet.

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Feedback Challenges with Node Providers

• Expressed concern with node providers who provide feedback only after development is complete, rather than during the process.
• This has led to inefficiencies and rework.
• The team hopes for more proactive engagement from node providers in the future.

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Meeting Frequency Discussion

• The team discussed whether to switch from weekly to bi-weekly meetings.
  • Some members supported bi-weekly meetings to save time.
  • Others preferred weekly meetings to maintain a tight feedback loop, especially as prototyping and development efforts ramp up.
• Decision: The team will keep weekly meetings for now, with the option to revisit the decision later.

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ETH Simulate v2 (or ETH Estimate Simulate)

• The team acknowledged that ongoing meetings are necessary due to plans for ETH Simulate v2 (or a similar feature).
• However, the current meetings often feel lengthy without significant progress being made.
• This week’s meeting concluded with no major updates or breakthroughs.

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Action Items

Meeting Frequency

• Continue with weekly meetings for now, with the possibility of switching to bi-weekly meetings in the future if circumstances allow.

Prototype Development

• Continue tracking progress on the Estimate Gas and tracing simulation prototypes.
• Focus on completing the Hive test and finalizing simulation strategies.

Node Provider Engagement

• Aim to improve communication with node providers to ensure feedback is provided during the development process rather than after.

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Next Steps

1. Reassess meeting frequency if progress slows or workloads change.
2. Continue development efforts on the Estimate Gas prototype and Hive test.
3. Address feedback challenges with node providers to streamline development processes.