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No highways labeled ok humanitarian map #342

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Lonkmapp opened this issue Dec 14, 2024 · 8 comments
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No highways labeled ok humanitarian map #342

Lonkmapp opened this issue Dec 14, 2024 · 8 comments

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Can this please be added
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duplicate of #340

please do not create duplicate issues

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Lonkmapp commented Dec 15, 2024 via email

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matkoniecz commented Dec 16, 2024 •
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creating duplicated useless makes it less likely

you got answer already in the forum thread - for start, it requires someone with technical abilities to volunteer for maintaining https://github.com/hotosm/HDM-CartoCSS map style

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Lonkmapp commented Dec 16, 2024 via email

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Lonkmapp commented Dec 16, 2024 via email

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skorasaurus commented Dec 23, 2024 •
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Hi,

As one of the contributors to the https://github.com/hotosm/HDM-CartoCSS/graphs/contributors ; I'll add some context.

First, I appreciate that you still find the map design useful and appreciate its design. I am also quite surprised that it is still included on openstreetmap.org 11 years after its creation (and the bulk of its development).

The HDM Carto Map was created back in early-mid 2013 accompanying a HOT work project in Northern Haiti, to provide an alternative map style that would be adopted in places where the existing (largely Western and Euro-centric) map styles weren't very appropriate or applicable for the places that HOT was working in.

A couple blog posts are available at https://web.archive.org/web/20150508002912/http://hotosm.org/updates/2013-06-07_humanitarian_data_model_redux
and https://web.archive.org/web/20150415233353/https://www.hotosm.org/updates/2013-09-29_a_new_window_on_openstreetmap_data

The map style's development was funded as a part of the project for a specific set of time (paid development largely ended in July 2013) and I think we had hit the primary objectives of its initial launch. Adding road shields were eventually to be added (#116 (comment)) but we had run out of time out of our paid development. Not also mentioned, styling road shields in the mapnik library, had been relatively complex and difficult, if I remember correctly)

Shortly after my contract with HOT was over in July 2013, I began a new job unrelated to HOT and OSM so my opportunity to contribute greatly dwindled.

Speaking for myself:
After the map's launch, demonstrated use of the map layer by others, collective interest by others to contribute, and communication from communities of what tags were needed (and should be rendered) and prioritized weren't communicated. (Looking back, the broader HOT community and I probably could have reached out more to those specific communities, although again, I didn't have much time as ) didn't develop. Additionally, HOT as an organization, has not focused on continuing its development (let alone funding ) to continue work on it. Additionally, my career shifted, limiting opportunities to continue participating in this and my interests shifted to other things.

I do occasionally pop in here every so often (like now).

I've been largely out of the scene and some of the software to render the map has change (osm2pgsql) probably changed.

For myself to contribute again, I would re-examine: who exactly is the map's audience again as well as whether the current tech stack is stable and still able to be run.
(I'm surprised to see that development of mapnik, the underlying library that renders the map, has not completely ceased https://mapnik.org/news/release-4.0.0)

You are welcome to contribute; I do not mean to intimidate you but learning the system may be difficult; and as all volunteers, existing contributors (including myself) may take time to respond back or assist. I would first get started on using https://github.com/kosmtik/kosmtik ; which is now recommended tool to modify the stylesheets and render the map.

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To clarify: (from #341 (comment)) I don't know if it would be immediately possible to add the highway shields, there have been many changes to osm2pgsql (one of the necessary tools used in the rendering process) over the last ~10 years and would have to determine whether changes would need to be made in https://github.com/hotosm/HDM-CartoCSS/blob/master/project.yml to match any changes in osm2pgsql or whether an old version of osm2pgsql can still be built from source and work.

That is also assuming that anyone has the time and interest to take this on.

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